4 juin 2007

EMCA>>>>GO!!!

bon, ben j'suis pris à l'EMCA!
Cé cool, ca....bon, m1tenant, cé résultat des GOBELINS demain!
Sinon, ben je suis à bordeaux, et je pourrai pas poster de dessins!!
voila!!! ben, jsuis content

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bouss a dit…

alors qu'est ce que tu vas foutre?

si t'es pas pris à Gobelins tu vas à l'EMCA?

ca te discreditera beaucoup aux yeux des Gobs, sache le.

si choix il y a, fait le bon =)

en tout cas félicitations vieu et pis si tu vien sur angouleme on se verraaaaaa ^^ yeah

et Mélodie te félicite pour l'oral des Gobs, elle savait pas et elle te passe le coucou aussi =)

ah euh oui et Franck n'est pas pris à l'emca (t'sais je l'ai amené a la gare en meme temps que ton frère et toi..)

la claque, je comprend pas trop la

il a un book de tueur et il parle plutot bien.j'ai pas capté l'échec la (meme pas sur la liste d'attente..ya une couille dans le paté)

Jean-David a dit…

Ya bocoup de monde sur le web qui parle des choix bizards du jury, cette année...j'espere que ca ne me concerne pas ossi.....................................lol
je sais pas encore ce que je vais faire....ya thomas à montpellier, les gobs demain...la, je suis ds le flou le plus total...

je sais pas, alors jattends un peu...pour réfléchir et pas me planter... voila!!!

DAD a dit…

Zy va JD! Je pense à toi! (croisage de doigts, sel par dessus l'épaule gauche et tout....)

Tatiana a dit…

eh JD, le jury de l'emca il ta pas posé une question du genre: "qu'est-ce que vous attendez de l'emca?" t'as répondu quoi? (sachant que tu tentais aussi les Gobs et que ta maniere de dessiner se rapprochait plus d'eux, tt comme moi, l'emca c'est pas le meme genre alors...)

Jean-David a dit…

alor moi, a lemca, y me connaissai deja...g dit franchemen que gobelin minteressai egalemen enormement...g joué carte sur table.

m1tenant, regarde les blog de la prochaine promo, et si tu remarque, les style st tré varié.... ya pa vraiment de style gobelin pour rentrer... c eux qui te le donne apré, tu vois...

g pense pas avoir le style gobelin...g mon style, et c ca qui veule voire avan tout (en sachant qu il fo montrer que tu est polyvalent ossi)


et dit toi bien que tu na pa le style gobelin non plus, mais plutot disney ( enfin des ressemblance, quoi)

pour teminer, g été pris aux deux zecole...alors ca te prouve que cé pa vraiment le stile qui les zinteresse, mai bien le profile

voila!!!! biz!

Tatiana a dit…

oki, ça me convient! :p
dsl JD, jai eu des pbls de connexion sur msn donc pas pu te donner mon avis...
mais a la suite j'aurai d'autres questions a te poser, donc dis moi à quelles occasions tu te connecteras sur msn pr y répondre...

Jean-David a dit…

Pas d probleme, ma grande!!

je me connecte plutot le soir vers 8h30, 9h00...quand je rentre du boulot...tu voi?

pas de problem pour les questions, mais pose les ossi ici, ca intresse tout le monde!!

Tatiana a dit…

oki!
bon ben j'en pose une déjà alors... enfin plusieurs car c'est un peu le fouillis...
j'ai bien remarqué aussi que les styles sont trés variés dans les books de gens qui veulent faire de l'anim. disons que je ne savais pas trop quel style interressait l'emca, car j'avoue que je préfére les gobelins mais j'aurai bien voulu etre prise a l'emca compte tenu de la difficulté pr entrer aux gobs et parceque l'emca c'est à angouleme et que c'est pret de chez moi... (je sais que ça parait un peu bidon comme pretexte mais je ne suis pas vraiment prete de retourner a paris cette année pr des raisons familiales xp)

et donc je m'étais demandé si mon style "disney" comme tu dis (lol) pouvait intéresser l'emca, c'est pr ça que je t'ai demandé comment tu avais fait pr etre pris aussi a l'emca. peut etre est-ce parcequ'ils te connaissent déjà sachant que ct la 3eme fois que tu la tenté cette école?

jai d'ailleurs vu les book de filles qui ont été pris a l'emca cette année, leur style est complement différent de ce que j'imaginais mais c'était tres complet car ça contenait bcp de croquis d'observation et de recherches de persos... ce qu'un book d'anim est censé contenir quoi. apres tout c'est peut etre ça qu'ils attendent de nous? peu importe le style...

Jean-David a dit…

alors,c pa ton style le probleme, mais ce que tu en fait....

ta des personnages, des decors, mai ca sufi pa... fo la création, ton univer personnel...
et on univers peut ce ressentir ossi ds tes croquis personnels....

ton style; c ta personnalité...avoir un style disney, cé utiliser quelque chose de deja vu... et les zecole danim ne recherche pa ca...

elle recherche des gen qui peuvent melanger plen de truc; et ressortir avec quelque chose de personnel, construi, evocateur....

alor il fo ce diversifier, et allé chercher de nouvelles choses...


c pour ca que g fait plusieurs projets personnels....pour me renouveller, dessiner otre chose, inventer plusieurs univers..

disney, ok....trouve quelque chose de completement different, dotre perso, ou des themes anti disney, et integre le tout a ton univers...melange pour avoir quelque chose de nouvo...fait des tests, recherche tout le temps, melange, et ca va venir!


bon, apré, ds zun book, il fo de tout...
> animo
> croquis divers
>univers inventé
>mouvement
>ton style
>ta polyvalence
>...
et tou ce qui prouve au juri que té faite pour eu...
ce que monsieur chot na pa arrete de nou dire, quoi, héhéhéhéh


voila!! amene ton otre question!!
va sy, jsui cho!!!
héhéh

Tatiana a dit…

ok je comprends...
bon pr disney je défends pas que ça non plus, jene cherche pas à avoir un style disney meme si javoue que c'est le premier a me faire rever comme bcp de monde (mon style est plus "disney" dans le fait que j'admire les expressions faciales et gestuelles en particulier = exemple du petit ours polaire qu'on avait à reproduire pr les epreuves ecrites des gobs, tu te souviens??) mais j'adore qussi les films de dreamworks (meme si la 3D est devenue la mode depuis longtps), de don bluth, de miyazaki, de michel ocelot...

pr ce qui est de mélanger plein de trucs, jai jeté un coup d'oeil sur le blog de julien (parmi tes liens), et j'adore trop ce qu'il fait, mon style se rapproche aussi de nicolas guerroux (meme s'il a un meilleur niveau), mais comme il a pas mis trop de dessins sur son blog je ne sais pas s'il varie sa maniere de dessiner, tandis que je vois dans le blog de julien que celui ci invente des personnages differents avec d'autres formes, avec d'autres univers, avec d'autres couleurs et techniques, donc je suppose que c'est ça que tu veux dire par se diversifier, aller vers de nouvelles choses...?

enfin s'il c'est qu'il faut faire pour arriver à faire un book intéressant, j'imagine que ce n'est qu'une question de temps... :) après tt j'ai 18 ans, mais vaut mieux pas trainer non plus^^

Jean-David a dit…

ta tout compris....
vouala, c ca>>>> chercher, explorer, et safirmer!!!

je dessiné pas comme toi a 18 ans....t meilleur que moi....hihihi

voila quoi......je pense que té sur la bonne voi si tu te diversifi!!

héhéhé!

Tatiana a dit…

:D
c'est dingue, je commence à avoir le moral remonté comme pas possible, (jsuis touchée que tu me dises que jsuis meilleure que toi mais jserai bien curieuse de savoir comment tu dessinais a mon age :p) enfin en tt cas merci pr tes precieux conseils, jai enfin une idée précise de comment faut s'y prendre pr pouvoir faire un book convaincant et merci aussi à aline, qui a été reçue a l'emca cette année et qui ma donné aussi des coups de pouce pr l'emca. (enfin je ne cache pas que c'est aux gobelins que je préfere aller mais là je profite de mon tps pr me renseigner un max)

autre question: comment t'en es tu sorti en culture G (analyse filmique et anglais pr gobs et emca)?? est ce que c'est pas tres important par rappoort au book ou c'est aussi important que le book?

Jean-David a dit…

GOBELIN > je sais pas...
EMCA > je sais pas...

huhu...

nan, je plaisante...
a gobz, pa daglais, tant mieux...
a lemca, comme dab en Anglais...comme un pied....
jsui nul....jsui nul....c tout.

A la question " où vous voyez vous dans dix ans? ", j'ai répondu " sur un bateau en antartic...
alor langlais, ben jétait motiv a fond....tu vois....

sinon, lanalyse filmique a lemca, bofbof...

a gobelin, g barratiné comme un fou, et ca a marché!!!
nan, sérieu, jétai tré alaise, javai pl1 d truc a dire, surtou que g pu placer M le maudi, tu voi...
et comme on en connai un rayon sur fritzlang, ben y mon bien apprécié!!

et le qcm, javais bien réussi, ossi!...

donc voila!!huhu

Jean-David a dit…

et pour finir, o gobz, cé primordiale!!!
et pa a lemca...la preuve, g été pris!

héhéhé!

Tatiana a dit…

o_O sans déc...
le jury m'a pourtant conseillée de m'intéresser à l'art contemporain, je me suis dit "ouais...", et je leur ai dit sincerement que je n'étais pas fan d'art contemporain mais que javais bien aimé le palais de tokyo parceque ct vivant, jai un peu barratiné moi aussi... mais je me demandais si ct vraiment nécéssaire d'etre cultivé maintenant que tu me le dis, ça voudra dire que tu as été pris à l'emca surtout sur l'efficacité de ton book.

et c'est pour ça aussi que je posais cette question car l'analyse filmique jlai trouvé bofbof aussi, je m'etais demandée si c'était a cause de ça aussi que j'étais pas prise a l'emca.

et aux gobs, c'était quoi comme analyse filmique? tu étais sûr d'avoir assez de connaissances (culture G, hist de l'art et cinematographique) pr te défendre à l'oral ou tu ne savais pas trop comment ça aller tourner?

Jean-David a dit…

en fait, le jury commencait à bien me connaitre...(3eme foi qui me voyait)

d'ailleur, ils ne mon posé aucune question autre que "qu'est que tu deviens?"
cé ma personnalité qui a primé, et mon taff...
parceque mon entretien a duré...10 minutes au lieu de 20...

vite bouclé...vite fait bien fait comme kon dit...
ca ce passe pour tou le monde comme ca!bon, cé mon histoire....

si tu na pas été prise, cé pa vraiment a cause de lanalse filmique en elle meme, cé plutôt un tout...une certaine maturité artistique assumé, recherché, et argumenté qui doit les convaincres, à lorale, ds le dossier, et ds les epreuves...point bar.



o gobz, g construit une analyse complétement personnelle basée sur mon ressentit, en liant le tout à dotres réalisateurs pour appuyer mon point de vu sur l'extrait présenté...

g parlé en gros:

du filming,
de la mise en scene,
du son,
du scenario...

aprés, je me suis attardé sur pl1 de trucs qui mon plus ou moins interpellés, au nivo des lumières, des couleurs, de l'effet koureshov,des vetements du personnage principale lié au filming, des plans liés entre eux... en utilisant fritzang comme référence, en comparant, en me posant des questions...et en répondant aussi à leurs questions, rebondissant dessus pour les amener OU je voulais (a peu prés)...

fo jouer fino un entretien pour parlé de tout ce que tu a préparer...mais globalement, jétais satisfait de cet échange...

il fo etre détendu, avoir de la tchache, jouer avec eux...etc...

voila!!

Jean-David a dit…

"ca ce passe PAS pour tou le monde come ca"

pardon...

Tatiana a dit…

encore un truc que je trouve louche (et ouais j'ai encore des questions):

tu te rapelles quand melody est venu a l'EAP elle nous avait présenté des planches de BD aux gobs et avait dit au jury que si elle n'était pas aux gobs cette année elle ferait de la BD. Prquoi les gobs tolèrent les BDs alors que l'EMCA déteste ça?

Jean-David a dit…

ben, emca et gobelin sont deux zécoles completements differentes, avec des gouts , des attentes, des cursus completements differents...

alors aprés, les gouts et les couleurs...

je sai pa tro quoi te dire de plus...dsl...

bye!

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